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hotjoester

hi all! =)
so i was thinking about trying the program cybershaman but after reading some of the results people were getting from the program, i don't know how comfortable i am with trying it.. or if it even works. on the testimonial page, almost all of the positive feedback seems to be from a biased source; the yahoo cybershaman group. such feedback seems to be coming from either the creator of the program himself or associates of his. users who are not from that group have been posting some pretty mixed results, nothing enough to convince me that this software is helpful.
my biggest concern is about demons and the other negative entities this program supposedly summons. i want nothing to do with any of that stuff so if there's any truth to this, i would rather stay away from the program at all odds.

i'm very interested in Astral Interface but i've been unable to find it anywhere. people have seemed to have really good results with that proggy and it doesn't resort to summoning spirits in order to make your manifestation happen. if somebody here knows where i can find it, you would be helping me out a lot.
otherwise, does anybody here know of any programs similar to Astral Interface that work? simple to use, doesn't summon spirits, quick results

i am willing to buy the program if i have a positive experience with the trial version but freeware is amazing as well =)

any help would be appreciated greatly

MatureMagus · Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:38 am Post subject:

How specifically would a software be able to summon demons - except if the trend/intent is exactly that, of course.
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hotjoester · Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject:

Richard McBeef · Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:43 am Post subject:

Get. A. Grip.

Evil demons from other dimensions hitching a ride on your hard drive is the plot line to several bad 80's no budget movies.

If things like this serious worry you, then my suggestion is that you start off with some basic psychic protection books, and practice what's in them till you feel safe enough to come out from under your bed, and play with the big boys, and girls.

I am sorry if this sounds mean, but the "OMGZ Dmons in mah internets!!" makes you sound like a gullible 11 year old who's spooked out by his older brother's ozzy albums. (Seriously go rent "The Gate" and get it out of your system.)

Sorry dude.

Here's a helpful hint though, 'deeemons' and 'lower astral' entities LOVES them some drama, so the more tweaked out you act, the more you feed the hysteria, and drama, the more they're gonna look at you like snack time. Banish with laughter. Act like it's a funny, but unimportant joke, and get on with your life.

Us REALLY EEEEEVAL Fiends from the Abyss don't have time for most of ya'll anyhow. Twisted Evil

Vortex · Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject:

1. CS does not summon demons. Its been used by scores of able people, both psychic and not and I've personally never heard of a reliable account of a 'demon' popping up caused by a CS session. Unless you specifically asked for it I guess and even then it shouldn't be as simple as just that.

2. Like Richard says, this frightful attitude only attracts unwanted attention. If you are serious about working with energies, manifestation and related, I'd suggest you drop this attitude, because you will run into it sooner or later. Learn how to ground and banish first. There is nothing to fear really.
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hotjoester · Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject:

thanks for your input guys, though i did sense a little bit of hostility in richard's post. lol oh well. gonna start learning the basics of this program on Sunday. =)

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Mr.Qwerty · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:02 am Post subject:

If you are a christian, try out Miracle 6. It's like CyberShaman, but the internal programming is entirely different - focused on christian ideals.

It's based around prayer and esoteric christian tradition. No spirits called up for sure!

And... I agree with Richard, there's no spirits called up in CS at all, if you're interested in how it works, it's a software radionics box, you can look it up.

Wish you luck hotjoester! Very Happy

Richard McBeef

[quote="petrov2500]

You have a valid concern here. You should research Cybershaman more before using it. You certainly don't want to summon dangerous spirits. If you are a Christian, read what the Bible says about such things.

May almighty Jesus bless you.[/quote]

Too late for that jesusfreak, he's already meddling in the occult, his soul belongs to Satan now!!!! Rolling Eyes

Look, "christian" control freaks, and the loonie crowd over at don croft's fan club have a hard on for perpetuating fear, and drama around occult practices. In the case of the jesus fanboys it's a control issue, in the case of the crofties it's mental illness.

Miracle 6 was supposedly programmed by Ernie Vega anyway, and licsenced out to the current distributors, so if he was really a DEMON WORSHIPING NWO BABY EATER, he'd probably have inserted an UNHOLY BACK DOOR OF DOOM, so the Ghoulies could crawl up through your toilet, and possess your jubbelies, or what ever. (Watch Ghoulies too, it's a funny movie.)

Listen to Heavy Metal, practice Black Magic,have sex with cute Goth Girls, and Sell Your Sould for Rock and Roll!!

SATAN RULES!! Twisted Evil

Mr.Qwerty · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:20 am Post subject:

Richard McBeef · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:43 am Post subject:

rocknroll · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:40 am Post subject:

[quote="Mr.Qwerty"]

Janie · Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject:

Denser energies - Spirits, Negative Entities, Demons, do not necessarily have to be summoned via psionic programs, spells or dowsing.
Through all your incarnations you may have brought them with
you in this lifetime. The forces do not go away because you
pass on and then return, but are with you unless you request
someone in the know, be it Exorcist, Shaman, highly connnected
Healer to clear and heal you. Your biofield may be polluted
just because you are Ascending and have Pure Light. This will
attract Dark Forces because they impede truth and delight in
deception. So when you dowse you may believe your responses
to be the Truth, but then learn that they are False truths. Your
pendulum's energy may be unclean. As I mentioned in other posts,
illness, trauma, alcohol, drugs, etc. also open Portals inviting
Dark Forces in. The Etheric body is vulnerable to attack - believe
it or not through Negative intent like curses, hexes, via
ordinary folk as well and by supernatural Dark Forces. If the
Aura is cracked or bleeding they come in. So, Dense Forces
can enter your Biofield affecting you, your surroundings and Yes,even
your Guides.

Richard McBeef · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:35 am Post subject:

Janie I respect your opinion to a certian point, but if you don't see how your stated beliefs are disempowering, I can see why you'd have a hard time removing astral pests from your space.

The more powerful beings, "positive" and "negative" usually have alot more important things to do than muck around with most folks.

d_redant · Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:11 am Post subject:

Whoever fooled you did a good job.

Where and Who did this paranoid assumption that cybershaman works by summoning spirits originate from exactly?
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