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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alastan wrote:
My advice to get it working. STOP trying to break them up. START trying to get you and the lady together. Completely different things. Right now your focusing on the process by which you BELIEVE you and her will enter into a relationship. Instead, focus on the GOAL and let it play out how it will.





Alastan is right. Focus on making yourself the more attractive one for that person in particular. Tailor your game to suit the situation and outcome.
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One a darker and more troublesome side, there are toxic men out there who could do this just because they can and not because they want an ex back (but I doubt they would use magic as they are usually very charming, confident and egotistical and don't need help). I see a scenario played out time and time again. Girl in a stable relationship with the good guy. Toxic guy barely knows her, is attracted to her, knows fully well that she's in a relationship, pursues the girl to the end, discredit's the good guy, tells her everything she wants to hear and how he will be better. Girl weakens, relationship breaks up, toxic guy gets girl but not long afterwards loses interest and shows what a pig and liar he is and is off to his next conquest with the satisfaction he's wrecked a relationship. Good guy gone Crying or Very sad . Now if the good guy was doing the spell for break up I would say.. go for it! I'm for the good guys and I'm Twisted Evil for the toxic ones!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural charm is nothing more than using magick naturally, though unconsciously most of the time. I say relax and just have sex. Whats with all the hang-ups of being possessive in relationships. Thats a big turn-off to girls.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: My spell backfired! Reply with quote

I won't judge you. I will just tell you my story. I am in mid fifties now.
When i was 20 i was crazy about this guy. We had just started going out.
Then he met this girl named Kathy. She was up to his apt. a few times.
She really liked him and i think they went to bed together. I had a magic
book and i did a spell to get rid of her. I remember tieing knots in a string
while chanting for her to go away. Then i put it under the carpet. Then
outside in front of the house in chalk i made a big pentagram and did my
other spell there. Oh, i also made up a little poem that kathy would go
away and never come back. Well, 2 or 3 wks later she was gone for good!
I was cleaning the house and found a note that she had written to ME. It
was hidden under the coffee table. She said she was going back to NYC
and she was sorry she took my man away and she wished me the best
of luck. Over the yrs i lost the note. Wish i'd kept it. So me and Jerry got
together more, i had his baby, and when the child was one yr old jerry
left us went to Colorado and never ever came back. I suffered, went
on Welfare, had to quit college as i could not afford a baby sitter. The
child, my son, grew up to hate my guts, treats me real mean, beat his
wife up, drinks and still takes drugs. He's a mess. I think the spell
backfired on me!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spells always have a karmic effect.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIERAIN wrote:
Spells always have a karmic effect.


Thats questionable.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karma shmarma. It's a bunk idea that has power because YOU think you're doing wrong.

Anyway, why not do any further spells to bring the guy back, or help your son? There's more to this story than just "magic went bad" methinks.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rayzorblades wrote:
Karma shmarma. It's a bunk idea that has power because YOU think you're doing wrong.

Anyway, why not do any further spells to bring the guy back, or help your son? There's more to this story than just "magic went bad" methinks.


I agree fully.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liderc wrote:
i agree mindful she's no more "meant" to be with me then she is someone else.

isn't there a saying all's fair in love and war?

i see no problem in shaping my world the way i want it to go, or should i say rather influencing the way i want my world, be it by any means

i don't appreciate the rude comments or remarks, you didn't have to reply. and if you think talking down to me, or saying i don't have intelligence makes you sound better then me on a website, then more power to you mate. really doesn't phase me

i asked a question, and hoped for intelligent replies, obviously quite a lot of you don't meet that grade cheers enough

thank you Mr. GreenTea for being respectful

so if no one else can really help then....


Liderc, where were you just prior to her hooking up with the guy whom is now her bf, and how did you become aware of her? Did she likewise become aware of you?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: My spell backfired! Reply with quote

Healerforever wrote:
I won't judge you. I will just tell you my story. I am in mid fifties now.
When i was 20 i was crazy about this guy. We had just started going out.
Then he met this girl named Kathy. She was up to his apt. a few times.
She really liked him and i think they went to bed together. I had a magic
book and i did a spell to get rid of her. I remember tieing knots in a string
while chanting for her to go away. Then i put it under the carpet. Then
outside in front of the house in chalk i made a big pentagram and did my
other spell there. Oh, i also made up a little poem that kathy would go
away and never come back. Well, 2 or 3 wks later she was gone for good!
I was cleaning the house and found a note that she had written to ME. It
was hidden under the coffee table. She said she was going back to NYC
and she was sorry she took my man away and she wished me the best
of luck. Over the yrs i lost the note. Wish i'd kept it. So me and Jerry got
together more, i had his baby, and when the child was one yr old jerry
left us went to Colorado and never ever came back. I suffered, went
on Welfare, had to quit college as i could not afford a baby sitter. The
child, my son, grew up to hate my guts, treats me real mean, beat his
wife up, drinks and still takes drugs. He's a mess. I think the spell
backfired on me!!!

When all these negative events were befalling you, why did you not use magick to counteract them? Also it seems to me that Kathy let Jerry know what she planned since his method of leaving is similar to hers. I agree with Rayzorblades that there is more to this than you've related -but no pressure. You'll have to come to grips with your decision[s] yet you have a tremendously powerful tool to modify those past decisions.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:12 pm    Post subject: Fixing it and knowing...... Reply with quote

Well, at the time i was only 20 and didn't know much about spells and
such. I was just learning. I acturally never connected the spell to
"backfiring" until many many yrs later! By that time i had gotton over
"jerry". I did locate him him a few times just so my child could talk to
his dad , but jerry was a drunk, poor, living in one room. I think he felt
guilty and so always disappeared again. My son talked to him at age 10
and 15 and then never again. Son is now in late 30's. I am in late 50's.
I contact jerrys sister once a yr and even she rarely hears from him, but
this yr she did, and he had a triple bypass and had throat cancer. So he's
not well. I feel sorry for him in spite of everything and if i could heal him
with radionics i would, but he won't contact me as the sister gave him my
no. and i sent a card to him with pic of son and jerrys grandaughter who
was born ON jerrys birthday. He never responded.

I have thought from time to time to help my son with radionics. I was
told by a serious practioner that we MUST get permission to heal
someone. My son would prob. say yes and laugh cause does not
believe in this stuff. The other thing is i was told and read somewhere
that when you start "healing" people it can REbound back on you and
you get the problem/illness. So reason for my hesitation. Is this true?


My friend Albert who died almost 2 yrs ago healed a lot of people with
serious illnesses. He had the very best top radionic machine that cost
a fortune. He died of Cancer!! BUT i know for a fact that he did NOT
make ANY attempt to heal himself cause i asked him and he said he
was doing NOTHING and just "watching and waiting". All i can think of
is that he WANTED to die. How come he healed other people and not
himself? Totally perplexes me. He was like about 62 yrs old.

I had horrible diarhea one time cuz antibiotics caused it and he did a
"treatment" on me from a distance (Canada). He had my hair follicles
i had sent way before. The first day the diarhea slowed down and in
two days it was totally gone. I was truely amazed.

I only practiced radionics a short while year or so on and off then
stopped, but want to get back into it. I find it Extremely facinating
and i know it works. Albert told me to just help myself and be very
careful of helping other people as it could rebound. I often wonder if
he got cancer from Rebounds?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

Guys, I wanted to share with you some of the experiences I come across pretty often. I do Magick for people and as we all know Love Magick is a # 1 demand. So, very often I'd get a person who wants an ex back.

I do Tarot reading and see what is going on. Believe it or not, very often people break up not because they don't love each other. Very often it is what I call an outside interference.

For example, heavy amounts of jealousy energy accumulated from friends over months or years (Evil Eye). Peoples past (insecurities in relationships due to learned behaviors), Magick (someone is cursing/hexing a relationship ether consciously or not), and the list goes on.

Those negative energies lead to break ups. And they aren't fun.

I don't force people to be with each other, but very often, all I have to do is remove a block ether with Magick or even Reiki - and people get back together.

Without blocks removed, trying to "get back with your ex" can be pretty dangerous for a person wanting it. It can cause more obsession. Also, it can be dangerous for health of both.

So, know what exactly you are doing.

And yes, I find stealing anyone or anything unethical. However, I do not find targeted Love Magick unethical as it can do way more good than harm (like I described in the example above).

Some ask, well, what if you don't reconcile? (meaning leaving situation as it is and moving on).

Well, it can be a bad choice too as both might suffer for years. Sure, they both might have other people, but deeply subconsciously it may be different. And then too late to reconcile (kids from others, etc).

I know it is a touchy subject, but it gets even touchier once you know all the depths of it.
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Plutocraft wrote:
Hello everyone.

Guys, I wanted to share with you some of the experiences I come across pretty often. I do Magick for people and as we all know Love Magick is a # 1 demand. So, very often I'd get a person who wants an ex back.

I do Tarot reading and see what is going on. Believe it or not, very often people break up not because they don't love each other. Very often it is what I call an outside interference.

For example, heavy amounts of jealousy energy accumulated from friends over months or years (Evil Eye). Peoples past (insecurities in relationships due to learned behaviors), Magick (someone is cursing/hexing a relationship ether consciously or not), and the list goes on.

Those negative energies lead to break ups. And they aren't fun.

I don't force people to be with each other, but very often, all I have to do is remove a block ether with Magick or even Reiki - and people get back together.

Without blocks removed, trying to "get back with your ex" can be pretty dangerous for a person wanting it. It can cause more obsession. Also, it can be dangerous for health of both.

So, know what exactly you are doing.

And yes, I find stealing anyone or anything unethical. However, I do not find targeted Love Magick unethical as it can do way more good than harm (like I described in the example above).

Some ask, well, what if you don't reconcile? (meaning leaving situation as it is and moving on).

Well, it can be a bad choice too as both might suffer for years. Sure, they both might have other people, but deeply subconsciously it may be different. And then too late to reconcile (kids from others, etc).

I know it is a touchy subject, but it gets even touchier once you know all the depths of it.


Thanks for your feedback.... this was a very interesting post!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my suggested approach to reconcile, but again - this is my SUGGESTION:

1. Use a reputable psychic to identify what's the cause of break up. If you think that it's because he/she loves someone else - you might be very wrong. If he/she is with someone else - that person is most likely used for rebound. Just to make him/he feel better. Anything that you think might be wrong especially if you think based on your negative emotions. Also, see if your are not going against flow of Universe here (that would include binding someone's will).

2. This is the most important step. Eliminate that block. I do it with traditional Magick because it gives me an ability to eliminate any cause. Even if it is past life. But I you must have great deal of training in Magick to do that. If you don't - hire a reputable Magician. Trust me, this one needs very proper handling.

3. Wait a bit. Usually, by now you will have signs that your ex changed an approach towards you. Very positive signs. He/she might just come back to you at this point as negative garbage is gone.

4. If not, do SUGGESTIVE Love Magick, NOT FORCED! It is still targeted to that one person, but it is not a force energy.

That's it! I am a traditional practitioner and yes, I do use Radionics to help me, but I'm a "candle man", lol!

If you have doubts in your work - let someone else do it for you. If you doubt - you won't get it done. Work on your confidence first before going into Love Magick.

Fear + Worry + Doubt = Guaranteed Failure.

Soon I will have my website up where I will go into deeper details. But for now keep in mind that reconciling with your ex is similar to energetic surgery where you take responsibility for feelings of 2 people, including yourself and may be the 3-rd who is your ex's "current".
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Thanks PleiadianHealer
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